How To Be Courageous with Patrick Arguin

“Courage is the basis of expressing who you are.” – Patrick Arguin

Children face a lot of fears and uncertainties. As they grow up, they must learn how to face life, sometimes on their own. Not having enough courage to be who they truly are, will lead them to become adults with little self-love. In this episode, Patrick shares about his Tools of the Heart Book Series. The lessons carried out in these books are beneficial to both children and adults alike. Patrick also teaches how adults with a wounded childhood can find healing and ward off fears that still burden them. He also explains how abandonment in childhood breeds dependency and on top of that, are some tips that parents can do to help their children be courageous. Tune in and learn how to raise courageous kids!

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Highlights:

01:43 Journey To Self-Healing
04:24 Tools Of The Heart
08:30 Breathing And Finding Your Own Rhythm
12:50 Abandonment Equals Dependency
18:05 The Healing Process
21:44 Courage And Fear
25:51 Self-care
28:38 Tips To Be Courageous
38:36 What’s Up With Patrick

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Quotes:

08:54 “The attachment, bonding necessary for the children to develop in the early years with the parent is so precious and so important… it makes all the difference between a striving mode and survival mode” – Patrick Arguin

19:25 “The deeper we can connect with our hearts, the deeper we can get to the bottom of things.” – Patrick Arguin

21:47 “Courage is the basis of expressing who you are.” – Patrick Arguin

22:44 “Fear is a real inhibitor of everything.” – Patrick Arguin

27:29 “Self-care will help you develop self-compassion, self-love, self-forgiveness.” – Patrick Arguin

28:08 “Self care is the basis of any healing journey a person can start. -Patrick Arguin

32:33 “Life is to be lived.” – Art Costello

36:42 “The more a child knows how to take care of himself, the better adult he’s going to become.” – Patrick Arguin

41:24 “All the answers and the resources we need are already inside of us, we only need to connect with them.” – Patrick Arguin

Meet Patrick:

Patrick Arguin has nurtured a life-long passion for illustration, and since 1998, has developed a solid experience as a graphic designer. But Patrick had another passion growing: humans and their well-being! His desire to help others and his role as a father were the driving force in conceiving the Tools of the Heart book series, which he aims to help children develop and maintain a stronger sense of self in order to build and rely on their inner resources. It tells and helps children understand the true meaning of courage. He now shares his time between his work as a Reiki Master, schoolyard educator, and the preparation of the Tools of the Heart workshops.

Transcription:

Art Costello: Welcome to the Shower Epiphanies Podcast. Today, Patrick Arguin is my guest. He lives in Quebec, Canada, Victoriaville, which the name has a deep meaning to me, which you will find out in this show. Anyway, he is the author of Tools of the Heart, a children’s book series. It tells and helps children understand the true meaning of courage, and he’s a children’s author and the creator of this wonderful book series. Patrick nurtured a life-long passion for illustration and graphic design, but another heartfelt passion emerged: humans and their well-being just wrecked his soul. His desire to help others and his role as a father were the driving force in conceiving Tools of the Heart book series, which aims to help young children develop and maintain a stronger sense of self in order to build and rely on their inner resources. Patrick, as I said, resides in Victoriaville, Quebec, Canada, where he continues to develop Tools of the Heart and his different projects while he was also working as a Reiki Master, a counselor, and a school educator. Patrick, it’s an honor and a blessing to have you on the show.

Patrick Arguin: Thank you. It is really a privilege to be here. Thank you very much.

Art Costello: Can you tell us your backstory, how you grew up, your childhood, and what led you down this path that you’re going to?

Patrick Arguin: Well, I would say that what started me on this journey of making books was my own journey of self healing. Because when I was 25, I had a depression which led me to really question a lot of things in my life. And basically, for the first 25 years of my life, I had grown to be a very docile person. Somebody would often strive to please other people starting with my mom, my dad, then my teachers, my friends, my girlfriends, et cetera. And at 25, it came to a point where this way of living, I realized it was not making me happy, but it was unsustainable. I could not go on that way. Fortunately, I met a therapist and counselor who later became my Reiki master. And I started therapy with her for a few years then started to learn Reiki and other methods of counseling while I was also working as a graphic designer, I’ve been studying and working as a graphic designer and web designer for 15 years. And in the midst of that, I had different courses to develop this other passion that my therapy brought me, which is understanding human beings and helping them to become better versions of themselves, and to strive and be happy.

Art Costello: That’s a beautiful story, I love it. Because when I was nine years old, I experienced depression, isolation, and abandonment. And what the difference between you and I was at 25, you had people you could count on, people around you. At nine years old, I couldn’t, I had nobody. I was so isolated in my situation.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah.

Art Costello: So your books, if I had it when I was nine, would have been a tremendous value to me. And can you tell us in terms that are comfortable with you, those feelings at 25, how did they intertwine in the writing of Tools of the Heart?

Patrick Arguin: It was very intimately, I would say. Because what sparked the creation of the books was when my daughter was three years old, she would seem to come from daycare a bit distraught. And I thought, Oh, I can, maybe I could teach her meditation and grounding, because I was already using those tools for a few years. So I created the character of Colin, the Oak tree to illustrate grounding, et cetera, and develop other characters to join him and then create stories. But I didn’t have much material to build stories on. So I had the epiphany when I started thinking about my own healing journey and my childhood, I said to myself, wow, I could really expand on that and draw on my experience, my wounds, and divide him into themes in the books that become key elements that human beings all need in order to strive and be happy. And I also wanted to make each book a stepping stone for the following one. So there’s a kind of progression in what the child is learning throughout each book. And I did so with the two wonderful collaborators, Ellen and Michelle, with whom we had such a beautiful creative synergy together. It was a match made in heaven, if I can say that. I often like to compare ourselves with the Kennedy and the rock band “Rush”. The trio Rush are three excellent musicians, but if you take out one member, it’s not Rush anymore. So I feel a bit like that. If either one of us would have been missing from the trio, Tools of the Heart would not have existed. It was really the combination of our three, three, three talents that really made it possible because Ellen was my mentor and my Reiki master. So she had really the background in terms of counseling and understanding the psychology and cetera. And I also had some background, but at the time of its creation, I was not as self assured as I am today. So while I was working on this project, I was also developing my own assurance and my own, only my stuff basically, walking my talk, or talking to what I know.

Art Costello: Walking the talk.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah, walking the talk. So because the project started in 2006 when my son was born, and I published the first four books in 2011. Then the complete series of eight in 2016, those were in French. And in early 2019, I published in English. So the project spanned over 13 years. And so it taught me a lot of pursuit, perseverance, and the courage, and humility, and many qualities that I am glad to have today.

Art Costello: It’s beautifully written. And the flow of it is so natural that it just really makes total sense. I want the audience to read the sequence of the titles or the chapters in the book, in volume one, Father Sun and Mother Earth Create Life. Second chapter, Fluffy and the Rainbow in his Heart. Three, Colin Discovers Confidence. Four, Colin and Fluffy Become Friends. And then in volume 2, (5) The Choice, (6), Colin’s Courage, (7) Enough is Enough, and (8) Fluffy Finds his Well-being. The flow of that is done so well, and it makes sense.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah. The first book of the series, the theme of the book is about breathing and finding your own rhythm. And it really done recently how perfect this book was, because what I’ve been realizing, as an educator in the last few years, working with students and young children, that the attachment bonding necessary for the children to develop in the early years with the parent is so precious and so important. And that is why the first story involves the mom and a dad, creating life, so the child can refer to that and say, Oh, yes, the love between mommy and daddy, and I’m here. There’s a sense of security there, and security is the number one need that humans have, that it makes all the difference between striving mode and survival mode. So feeling safe–

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Art Costello: That’s very interesting.

Patrick Arguin: –it’s really important. And finding your own rhythm is so important too, because one of the reasons I think so many children are stressed today and anxious is because they often have to follow the parents on rhythm, which is already accelerated by external factors. And they’re trying to adjust it up instead of, it should be the parents slowing down and adjusting to the child’s own rhythm. If you take a child and you’ve placed them in a room, and you give him Legos, he will be calm and do his own thing. But if you take, Oh, we have to go there, we have to get moving, we have to go without that, he becomes stressed and he becomes reactive. No, I don’t want to go. And we are not always conscious of how much we sometimes interfere with the child’s own rhythm. So giving the children tools for that was an objective, a goal, and bringing the parent mindful about that. Also in each book, I always try to provide tools for the kid, the children, and bring the parents mindful about some of the pitfalls or the challenges that the child can face. I think that’s why it makes for a beautiful educational tool because in each of the books, they are the little elves that guide and counsel the characters. And the way the dialogues were created for those is that the parent, or the educator, or the caretaker can model the dialogues to be able to guide the children.

Art Costello: I couldn’t agree with you more. And I think that we think in the same terms, just the wording of things. Because when you talk about rhythms, I believe that there are rhythms in life, and life is a series. I know that there’s positive energy, and I know that there’s a negative energy that comes into our lives and everything. But what I learned at nine years old was how to take care of myself because I had to, I was forced into that situation. What I learned, and I didn’t learn it, I learned it at the time, but it took me years to realize what that meant. And when I learned that living to who I am, and in my heart and soul, I’m a big crier. I mean, I cry at the simplest of things. I’m very tender hearted and all that. It was difficult for me as a child because I would go to school and something would touch my heart and tears would flow, and the teachers would have a connection, they thought something was really wrong and all that. But I had to learn how to adjust to all of that.

Patrick Arguin: I think that adults, in general, are none of the ways conscious or aware of how sensitive children can be. If I may share a little piece of my back story, when I was three years old, I was living in an apartment with my parents and my grandparents decided to visit us. So after dinner, I take my bath and go to bed. But unbeknownst to me, and respect for the elders behold, my parents offered their bedroom to my grandparents. And so the next morning when I woke up, as my usual, I went to wake up my mom and what did I see? My old grandma. So I started to panic and I must’ve been so freaked out that I didn’t even see my parents sleeping in the bed in the living room. And so I just got out of the building and was walking around crying, “mommy, mommy.” And because it was summer and the windows were open, my mom woke up and said: “Hey, that’s Patrick.” So she came outside, picked me up, and that was that. But in my memory, the damage was done because it had created the wound and the fear of abandonment. And from that point onward, I became very weary of my mom not abandoning me, trying to please her all the time, or not displeasing her, or to become the good boy, which later developed into what I became. And there’s a French Canadian therapist and author, Liz Bobo, who wrote a book about, she calls that The 5 Wounds of the Soul, each one of these wounds create a different set of coping mechanisms. And one of the coping mechanisms that abandonment might produce is a dependency. So yeah, I became really dependent. And so at 25, I came to the realization that I could not go on like this anymore, but it goes to show how sometimes we get wounded in the most benign situations. And this was a big deal for me, I think we all get wounded in different aspects in our lives, but some take a much bigger place than others.

Art Costello: And I agree, and it’s what always amazes me when I talk to fellow men like yourself that have gone through this is the process of how you’ve healed yourself and where it’s led you. It’s so beautiful and unique, but you and I both know there are many men and women out there, and children who have been wounded in childhood and who have never healed, who never, never, never heal. And I just think how blessed we are, and writing seems to be a big part of healing. Do you agree with that? Do you think that writing is a way that helped you heal? I know it did me. I know when I wrote my book Expectation Therapy. Basically, how I started it was telling my story. And the more I told my story, the more my life began to make sense. And the more that I understood how I became me.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah.

Art Costello: But more than that, what it helped me is become a better man, a better father, a better person all the way around. It just taught so many lessons.

Patrick Arguin: I think that when we are in search of healing, when we are wounded, when people get wounded, sometimes we humans have a very hard time dealing with the pain. So when they do that, the only way to do that is to disconnect themselves from who they are, their hearts. But the love we have inside and the pain we have is in the same place. So when you disconnect yourself from the pain, you also disconnect from the love you have inside your heart. So I think that the healing process that anyone can go through involves getting back into our hearts and allowing, if we want this love and this light to emerge, we don’t have the choice but to face the pain that we have. And I think that any creative process will facilitate that. For me, it was illustration, and later on, writing came along. But yes, I think that when the deeper we can connect with our hearts, the deeper we can get to the bottom of things. Because if we don’t do that, then we will only always skim the surface of our wounds. And so change is hard when we don’t allow ourselves to go that deep.

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Art Costello: Do you think having emotional intelligence, the sooner that we develop it, do you think it’s beneficial?

Patrick Arguin: Oh, yes. Yes. And I think that most humans are built with those that are equipped, because babies have what we call mirror neurons, and it’s special neurons designed to learn. And the way they helped us is to mimic what our parents do, think, feel. And that is the basis of empathy. So if we have good models, and we have safety, and love, and genuine heartfelt connections, then this emotional intelligence just blossoms on its own. But if we experienced difficult situations very early on, then sometimes it may be difficult to develop this emotional intelligence because the brain is constantly in survival mode. And that prevents the frontal lobe of the brain to develop and have more empathy and emotional intelligence. But there’s always those flowers growing in the desert, I like to say those people, or those children, that despite harsh environments, grow up to be resilient people.

Art Costello: Yeah. Which leads me into this other thought, because in your book, you talk a lot about kids being courageous and teaching them to be courageous. Why is it so important for kids to be courageous?

Patrick Arguin: Because I think that courage is the basis of expressing who you are. And when you don’t, when you don’t allow yourself to express who you truly are, then it becomes harder to recognize what you have inside. And so you become more, there’s a void inside of you that might be created. And you will try to fill that void by interacting with other people and not necessarily in the most healthiest way.

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Art Costello: Do you think that the opposite in a child of being courageous is being fearful?

Patrick Arguin: I would say so, yes.

Art Costello: Yeah, I think so too.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah. Because fear is a real inhibitor of everything., It prevents you from saying things you enjoy to do, what you want, you’re wary about what others will think of you, is it okay if I do this? And always fearing not to be loved. And when you fear not to be loved, what you basically do is try to meet everybody else’s expectations. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Nonviolent Communication, Marshall Rosenberg, the father of Nonviolent Communication. According to a really interesting expression, he calls this ’emotional slavery’ where we feel responsible for the feelings of others, and inversely, we believe others to be responsible for our own feelings. So what that does is that it interrupts us in each other’s expectations. So it’s hard to develop genuine, and authentic interactions, and become authentic ourselves because we never try to please who we are, we’re trying to please everyone else.

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Art Costello: Well, one of the things that I write a lot about is faith and fear, because that is the two lenses that we see our expectations through. Faith doesn’t necessarily be in a religious sense. It can be in the faith in yourself, it could be in the faith of a coach, of anybody, a therapist, it could be anybody. But if you fear, it absolutely stops you from doing everything. Fear is so detrimental to human existence.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah.

Art Costello: So I write a lot about faith and fear. Faith, if we see our expectations through two lenses, either faith or fear, or faith moving us through, and it oscillates back and forth, depending on the situation.

Patrick Arguin: Exactly. And I think that the common element of those two is self worth. Because when you have faith, you are able, to a certain degree, to recognize your own worth in what you’re capable of. But when you are in fear, you have a really hard time realizing what you are worth, or what you are really made of, or what you are able to do. So to me, it really has to do with the self worth, the value that we give ourselves. When you value yourself to a very high degree, faith comes easily. But when you don’t consider yourself, when your value is not much, then you’re always in doubt of what you can do or accomplish.

Art Costello: Exactly. Exactly. One of the things you talked about self worth that I really, really love in the book is that I equated it with self care, that teaches the child to care for themselves.

Patrick Arguin: Absolutely. Absolutely.

Art Costello: And that is such a powerful tool for any human being to have and to be able to take care of. Because I get questions a lot when I do speeches and talks about Expectation Therapy and how it is. And people always ask: “Isn’t this really selfish? Isn’t this all about you?” And I said: “No, it’s about self care. It’s about caring for yourself emotionally and doing the things that you were meant to do, not with what you’re guided to do by others.”

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Patrick Arguin: I really think and believe from my heart that the easiest way or the best way I think to start a healing process, any healing process, is self care. Because you will then start to give yourself what nobody ever gave you, or what you never give yourself permission to ask, or never thought you could expect from somebody. So you’re giving what you want to receive. And so self care will help you develop self-compassion, self-love, self-forgiveness. Because sometimes in the process of healing journey, we sometimes come to realize how we surrender our power to some people or some situations. And the only way to take back our power is to take responsibility for that. But sometimes, you have to forgive yourself for these past mistakes. Although very unconsciously, you are still responsible for them. So self care is really the basis of any healing journey a person can start. And I think that it was also a recurring team in the books, teaching the children how to take care of themselves, so they don’t become dependent on anyone for that. That’s how you become autonomous and responsible when you are able to care for yourself.

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Art Costello: Exactly, exactly. I mean, couldn’t have said it better myself. I mean, that is a perfect description of what your book teaches. In a perfect description, what is it? And I was trying to think when I was reading it, there’s so many lessons in your material. There’s so many great, great tips. Can you give us five of your favorite tips for kids to be courageous?

Patrick Arguin: I would say that the first step would be to make them feel safe. Like I said, safety is a primary need we have as humans. And it makes the difference between striving mode and survival mode. So paying attention, listening to them, do not overprotect them though because then the children will start to doubt his own capacity of taking care of himself, and get that can easily lead to them to become anxious. Make them feel loved, they are beings of pure love, and they need people around them to reflect that same state of being or else they might start to doubt themselves, and their worth, and what they deserve from life, and what they can achieve. Made their presence meaningful to you, I would say. Because they need to feel that the love they had inside of them can also be given and expressed, and that it can make a difference in other people’s life. I think it’s truly important if we want them to act kindly, if we want them to act kindly to other people by compassion and not by obligation, because doing things out of obligation is never fun. And understanding that they are autonomous beings who just need to be reminded to be responsible for their needs, their feelings, their emotions, their life, and not ours, not the parent’s life. Let them know that making mistakes is okay. And for the parents, I would say, cultivate in yourselves what you want to see in your children. It’s hard to give something you don’t have. So issuing help, counsel, support, and whatever, you seek it. And I think the book series is actually a good start. Perhaps because for some of the feedback I got, sometimes I had the power of helping adults reconnect with your child. That is some of the feedback I got. And mostly older people would say to me: “Gosh, I really enjoyed your books because it makes me feel like a child again.” So I think that the themes in the book, and the messages and everything, are really universal, and they can really help a person to get in touch with their hearts and what really matters. Because what’s in our hearts, people sometimes ask me: “Well, what’s the part about the heart and et cetera?” Well, in your heart are the things that really matter to you, your needs, your feelings. And if you cannot express that, well, it’s a shame. I mean, if we can’t express ourselves, not being able to express ourselves, I think is a slow death in some ways, because life is within us and we need to be able to express it. If we don’t allow ourselves to express it, then we slowly become doll and [inaudible], life is, I don’t want to say bad words but–

Art Costello: Life has to be lived.

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Patrick Arguin: Yes. Yes.

Art Costello: I mean, I write a lot about wants, needs and desires. Because I think that once you start fulfilling your wants, needs and desires, it just makes you feel more loved and validated. And I write up about the two biggest things that adult human beings want, but I think it’s all human beings is to be loved and to be validated in their beliefs and what they believe in.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah.

Art Costello: I mean, I think we’re heading down the right path, teaching children this stuff early. Has the Canadian system embraced your book, the school system?

Patrick Arguin: I know that in New Brunswick, a few schools that have my books and do workshops with them with mindfulness and things like that. Right now, I’m doing some workshops myself with the kinders in my school. I haven’t got to the point of marketing it in a larger wide way right now. I’ve had some interesting sales, et cetera, but they still need to be known on a larger scale. I think that once I can get into a few schools, it will spread.

Art Costello: Yeah. I think that there’s some books that are written that just need to be in the school system, and yours is certainly in that category. I don’t mean in just the Canadian, I mean, in the whole world.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah. Why not?

Art Costello: Love great books, that’s for sure. One thing, I don’t know if you have this in Canada, but we have book distributors that promote books to school systems.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah. We do have that.

Art Costello: Yeah. That would be a great place for you to get your book into the hands of those people because they have the connections to all the school districts and all the school superintendents around there.

Patrick Arguin: You just gave me a good reminder.

Art Costello: And I just think that this book, well, I think your book deserves it. I think your book deserves to be in every school, in every place in the world.

Patrick Arguin: Well, thank you very much.

Art Costello: I mean, we have Harry Potter in every school, this is much more important than the fantasy land of Harry Potter.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah.

Art Costello: This is much, much, and that’s what’s so dear to my heart.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah, it is truly one of my goals that my books may be distributed in many schools so that we can teach children self care. Self care to me is so important. And I think that the more a child knows how to take care of himself, the better adult is going to become, so it’s really paramount. You need schools, and principals, and teachers to believe that it’s important because otherwise, they will just continue to teach what their usual stuff.

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Art Costello: Yeah. Have you shared this? You’re a counselor, a school counselor and all that, have you shared it amongst your peers? And what’s the feedback from them?

Patrick Arguin: I shared it a few times, but sometimes I got the impression that their focus was on other things so I proposed some things and I experimented things with the children. There’s always the question of budget and things like that.

Art Costello: It’s always about the budget with school districts.

Patrick Arguin: Yes. But if I ever get the resources to do that one day, maybe I would start my own school, I don’t know.

Art Costello: That’s a great idea. That’s a great thought, I really liked that. This 45 minutes has gone really fast, and I wanted to give you an opportunity before we sign off, in the next 5 or 10 minutes, to leave us with a message and then let us know where they can get a hold of you, where your book is, and what’s coming up for you, what’s coming in the future. In other words, tell us all of your secrets that are hiding in your brain.

Patrick Arguin: Well, in terms of future projects, right now, me and my collaborators, we are working on guided meditations that are all related to each of the themes. So there would be two meditations for each theme though, 16 guided meditations. And guided meditations were really an integral part of the initial concept. Because for me, it was important to not only teach stuff through images and words, but to allow children to also get in touch with themselves. Because the key component of every book is to nurture that connection with ourselves, which I think is the basis for self care, and everything starts from there. The connection, that deep connection with ourselves, and giving ourselves love and importance, that’s the basis for me. And so making meditations that were facilitated, that was really important. And also that when they read the story, they get a sense of the feeling in the words, or the images, the soft images. But I also want them to have another experience, an experience where they could feel in their hearts what it meant, to feel grounded, to feel appreciative of your qualities, or to feel your courage mustering up, or feeling how it feels to suit yourself and take care of yourself. So for me, guiding meditations were the best medium for that. And so right now, we are writing them in French. Eventually, I will do the same process with my English counterparts. And further down the line, I also would like to translate in Spanish. I have collaborators who also speak Spanish, teachers in my school, because I work in a Trilingual School, by the way. So I speak French, but my day to day is always in the three languages. So that’s in my projects. And if I could share what I wish I would like people to take away from my stories in my books would be, ‘all the answers and the resources we need are already inside of us. We only need to connect with them and develop ways and habits to nurture that connection. And to nurture your inner garden, your feelings, your needs, and everything that matters to you. That’s, your self worth, always be filled to the brim. And that way, letting yourself down will never be an option. And always believe you can change anything that doesn’t make you happy, always.’

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Art Costello: Well, those are wise wise words. And they really don’t just pertain to children, they pertain to every single living, human being on the face of this earth.

Patrick Arguin: Yeah. And sometimes they forget that they are also children. At the core of themselves, they are children.

Art Costello: That is true. Well, this has been an absolute treasure, and I want to do this again with you. I’d like to do it probably when you’re, after maybe about six months when you’ve got this thing really rocking and rolling. Because I have a feeling, and I’m going to encourage my audience to connect with Patrick. Patrick, what’s your website? And where can they get the book?

Patrick Arguin: My website is toolsoftheheart.com, they can get a hold of me on Facebook, Tools of the Heart, you can find it easily, very colorful images. Facebook, my website–

Art Costello: Instagram?

Patrick Arguin: Instagram? I’m trying to get more into that right now. I’m in the process of exploring Instagram and how I can use it to my best advantage. But Facebook and my website are the place you can reach me. And my website is transactional, meaning that people can buy my books there. They can also be bought in Amazon and Barnes & Noble, and Indigo, and all the major online bookstores. And the difference on these online bookstores is you can only buy the books individually. They are sold individually and they are sold together as volumes containing each four stories, the ones you had, Art. But on my website, I can sell with different combos and stuff like that. So they have the choice.

Art Costello: Well, I really appreciated that. And I’m going to encourage my audience to go out and buy these books, and buy them for yourself, by them for your kids, and buy them for your grandkids. Because I mean, this is basic, this is the core of a child, and how to help them develop, and it’s it’s tools that they can use. And Patrick, it’s been an honor having you on the show, and I look forward to working with you and doing things in the future. Because no matter what the kids of this world are our future, and it’s our legacy. And that’s what’s important about it that we do the work so these kids can live in a world of love, and respect, and kindness and caring. I mean, that’s what we all want. With that being said folks, it’s another episode out. Patrick has been great, and everybody knows where they can get a hold of me. Art at Expectation Therapy, my website is expectationtherapy.com. Heather White, you can go ahead and take us out.

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